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Given that it's a float, comparison with 1 may not be the best idea, but I feel like erroring here is marginally better than ignoring invalid w values.

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klausw commented Mar 22, 2019

I think people have a somewhat irrational (no pun intended) distrust of floating point arithmetic. If you start out with w=1, and apply matrix transforms involving add/multiply of values that are also exactly 0 or 1 (as is the case for the bottom row of a rigid transform matrix), the result will still exactly equal 1.0. Floating point arithmetic is exact for integers as long as you don't exceed the mantissa range (up to 2^52 or so for doubles), and the typical things you'd be doing with w values wouldn't lead to an approximately-but-not-exactly-1.0 value.

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Yeah, this was the assumption I was making too, floating point should be fine for ints here. And the fix for this error is straightforward, you can always set the last value to 1 if you need.

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toji commented Mar 25, 2019

Hm... so this would explicitly prevent me from doing something along the lines of the following, right?

let transform = new XRRigidTransform({x: 1, y: 2, z: 3}, someOrientation);

Because that actually seems pretty convenient.

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It would allow it as long as someOrientation has a unit value 1 -- if it doesn't you have a bug anyway since it's going to get overwritten

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Oh, sorry, position. That is a problem, hmm. Maybe provide our own init dicts?

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It seems like w=1 by default, so that looks like it would still work?

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toji commented Mar 25, 2019

Oh really? Could you link to the relevant spec text? (I'm gonna try and hunt it down too.)

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toji commented Mar 25, 2019

I guess this is the right link to cite: https://www.w3.org/TR/geometry-1/#DOMPoint

And in light of that, I'm good with this being a strict validation. Thanks!

@toji toji merged commit ef4f46c into immersive-web:master Mar 25, 2019
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Update XR code to use rigid transforms and new pose/transform stuff from the spec

This updates our XR code to use euclid's new [RigidTransform3D type](servo/euclid#328), which is more efficent and convenient to work with.

It additionally brings us up to speed with the spec:

 - `XRViewerPose` was made a subclass of `XRPose` (immersive-web/webxr#496)
 - `XRView.viewMatrix` was removed in favor of `XRRigidTransform.inverse.matrix` (immersive-web/webxr#531)
 - `XRRigidTransform.inverse` is an attribute (immersive-web/webxr#560)
 - `XRRigidTransform` now validates positions in its constructor (immersive-web/webxr#568)

Furthermore, it adds support for `XRRigidTransform.matrix`.

While fixing this I also noticed that our view matrix code was incorrect, we calculated view matrices as `pose.to_column_major_array()`, whereas it *should* be `pose.inverse().to_row_major_array()` (since Euclid uses row vectors, whenever the spec says it wants a column major array we should use `.to_row_major_array()` since all web specs implicitly use column vectors). For 3DOF devices poses are mostly rotations anyway, so the effective transpose behaved _like_ an inversion, but was incorrect.

This PR gets rid of `view.viewMatrix` anyway, however I felt like I should mention this discrepancy, since otherwise the replacement of `view.viewMatrix` with `view.transform.inverse.matrix` doesn't make sense

r? @jdm

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Update XR code to use rigid transforms and new pose/transform stuff from the spec

This updates our XR code to use euclid's new [RigidTransform3D type](servo/euclid#328), which is more efficent and convenient to work with.

It additionally brings us up to speed with the spec:

 - `XRViewerPose` was made a subclass of `XRPose` (immersive-web/webxr#496)
 - `XRView.viewMatrix` was removed in favor of `XRRigidTransform.inverse.matrix` (immersive-web/webxr#531)
 - `XRRigidTransform.inverse` is an attribute (immersive-web/webxr#560)
 - `XRRigidTransform` now validates positions in its constructor (immersive-web/webxr#568)

Furthermore, it adds support for `XRRigidTransform.matrix`.

While fixing this I also noticed that our view matrix code was incorrect, we calculated view matrices as `pose.to_column_major_array()`, whereas it *should* be `pose.inverse().to_row_major_array()` (since Euclid uses row vectors, whenever the spec says it wants a column major array we should use `.to_row_major_array()` since all web specs implicitly use column vectors). For 3DOF devices poses are mostly rotations anyway, so the effective transpose behaved _like_ an inversion, but was incorrect.

This PR gets rid of `view.viewMatrix` anyway, however I felt like I should mention this discrepancy, since otherwise the replacement of `view.viewMatrix` with `view.transform.inverse.matrix` doesn't make sense

r? @jdm

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Update XR code to use rigid transforms and new pose/transform stuff from the spec

This updates our XR code to use euclid's new [RigidTransform3D type](servo/euclid#328), which is more efficent and convenient to work with.

It additionally brings us up to speed with the spec:

 - `XRViewerPose` was made a subclass of `XRPose` (immersive-web/webxr#496)
 - `XRView.viewMatrix` was removed in favor of `XRRigidTransform.inverse.matrix` (immersive-web/webxr#531)
 - `XRRigidTransform.inverse` is an attribute (immersive-web/webxr#560)
 - `XRRigidTransform` now validates positions in its constructor (immersive-web/webxr#568)

Furthermore, it adds support for `XRRigidTransform.matrix`.

While fixing this I also noticed that our view matrix code was incorrect, we calculated view matrices as `pose.to_column_major_array()`, whereas it *should* be `pose.inverse().to_row_major_array()` (since Euclid uses row vectors, whenever the spec says it wants a column major array we should use `.to_row_major_array()` since all web specs implicitly use column vectors). For 3DOF devices poses are mostly rotations anyway, so the effective transpose behaved _like_ an inversion, but was incorrect.

This PR gets rid of `view.viewMatrix` anyway, however I felt like I should mention this discrepancy, since otherwise the replacement of `view.viewMatrix` with `view.transform.inverse.matrix` doesn't make sense

r? @jdm

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Update XR code to use rigid transforms and new pose/transform stuff from the spec

This updates our XR code to use euclid's new [RigidTransform3D type](servo/euclid#328), which is more efficent and convenient to work with.

It additionally brings us up to speed with the spec:

 - `XRViewerPose` was made a subclass of `XRPose` (immersive-web/webxr#496)
 - `XRView.viewMatrix` was removed in favor of `XRRigidTransform.inverse.matrix` (immersive-web/webxr#531)
 - `XRRigidTransform.inverse` is an attribute (immersive-web/webxr#560)
 - `XRRigidTransform` now validates positions in its constructor (immersive-web/webxr#568)

Furthermore, it adds support for `XRRigidTransform.matrix`.

While fixing this I also noticed that our view matrix code was incorrect, we calculated view matrices as `pose.to_column_major_array()`, whereas it *should* be `pose.inverse().to_row_major_array()` (since Euclid uses row vectors, whenever the spec says it wants a column major array we should use `.to_row_major_array()` since all web specs implicitly use column vectors). For 3DOF devices poses are mostly rotations anyway, so the effective transpose behaved _like_ an inversion, but was incorrect.

This PR gets rid of `view.viewMatrix` anyway, however I felt like I should mention this discrepancy, since otherwise the replacement of `view.viewMatrix` with `view.transform.inverse.matrix` doesn't make sense

r? @jdm

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